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- Reviewing EditorAlicia IzquierdoUniversity of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, United States of America
- Senior EditorKate WassumUniversity of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, United States of America
Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
In this study, Shuler and colleagues record neurons from the DMS in mice performing a patch foraging task. In this task, mice had the choice between harvesting rewards from 2 ports - one the time-investment port where the rate of reward declined over time and the other a context port where the rate of reward was either high or low. Mice performed the task appropriately, switching between ports as the rate of reward declined in the time-investment port and switching more rapidly when the context port delivered high versus low rewards. The behavior of the mice was also strongly driven by time since the most recent reward receipt, in conflict with normative accounts of patch foraging. Individual DMS neurons showed bistable firing patterns, transitioning to high rates of activity at various times from reward. Overall, the population tiled the temporal space, and the accumulation of the number of neurons in the high firing state was predictive of patch exit. The rate of accumulation varied with things that also affected behavior.
Strengths:
Overall, the aims of the study were clear and important, the experiment directly addresses them, and the results are clear and provide compelling support for the authors' conclusions.
Weaknesses:
I have only a few comments and questions to consider, none of which are criticisms of what was done, really.
(1) Probably my chief question, alluded to in the discussion, is what the evidence is that DMS plays a causal role in generating these correlates and the resulting behavior, in light of the lack of causal evidence here. What are other options? Could such information depend on upstream areas such as OFC or mPFC, with DMS just a pass-through? And while I would not ask for causal data, is there a specific prediction? That is, if the area were inactivated, would mice stay longer or shorter? Not do the task? If I wanted to do a causal test of the authors' idea regarding the contribution of DMS to this behavior, what would be predicted, and what result would invalidate the hypothesis? Speculating on this a bit, beyond just saying DMS is involved, would be useful.
(2) Not much is said about the suboptimal strategy. Would DMS continue to play the same role if the mice showed no effect of recent reward and instead performed appropriately? Or is some other area doing that job? Or is this not important? I thought it was interesting that the mice basically did not treat the game quite like they were supposed to. Is it important to go back and look at what is happening in DMS under normative conditions to really know how this area contributes to proper foraging?
(3) Do these neurons also track time in the context port? Or do they only exhibit this behavior in the port where rewards are depleting? This seems like an interesting question. Do they show the same profile in different ports, if so?
Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Here, Sutlief et al. use a novel patch-foraging task to investigate the role of dorsomedial striatal (DMS) neurons in determining when animals disengage from a resource. They show that mice, contrary to canonical optimal-foraging predictions, adopt a strategy in which reward receipt resets timing behavior, with decisions further shaped by both cumulative time spent in a patch and the overall quality of the environment. The authors further demonstrate that a subset of DMS neurons exhibits step-like activity patterns during task performance. Importantly, the accumulation of these state transitions across the neuronal population predicts the timing of patch-leaving decisions on a trial-by-trial basis, providing a potential neural mechanism underlying decisions about when to abandon a currently exploited resource.
Strengths:
This study addresses an important question using a well-designed, interesting behavioral task. The finding that mice employ a reward-triggered exit-timing policy is particularly interesting, as it is pertinent to the many patch foraging-style tasks that have been developed for use in mice, where rewards are delivered as discrete events. The identification of step-like activity in DMS neurons is mostly compelling, and the authors' trial-by-trial analysis linking this activity to behavior provides some support for its relevance to patch-leaving decisions.
Weaknesses:
A key interpretational issue is whether the DMS signal reflects timing specifically, rather than movement initiation or other task-related factors. The authors argue that once a sufficient number of neurons transition, the animal exits the time-investment port. However, it remains unclear whether this population threshold reflects a timing computation that determines when to leave in the more abstract sense, or a signal more directly related to movement onset (that may also be initiated after some proportion of the population has changed its activity). An important control would be to examine neural activity while animals are engaged at the context port. In this epoch, animals presumably do not need to time their departure in the same way, but they still eventually initiate movement. If the DMS signal reflects timing rather than movement, one would not expect the same accumulation-to-threshold pattern of step-like transitions at the context port.
It would also be helpful for the authors to clarify the behavioral definition of the leaving decision. Can mice return to the time-investment port after exiting it if they do not subsequently enter the context port? How exactly is "exit" defined: as withdrawal from the time-investment port, entry into the context port, or some other behavioral event? Is there variability in the latency between time-investment port exit and context-port entry, and if so, is this latency related to DMS step-like activity? These details are important for interpreting whether the neural activity is aligned with a timing decision, movement initiation, or the execution of a transition between task states.
The classification approach for identifying step-like activity seems generally reasonable, and the low false-positive rate against homogeneous Poisson controls is reassuring. However, one potential issue is that the identification of trial-by-trial state transitions is not independent of the session-level characterization of each neuron. The algorithm first fits a sigmoid to the pooled session data and then uses the resulting high- and low-firing-rate states to constrain interval-level fits. This may bias the analysis toward finding step-like transitions in neurons whose activity is only approximately step-like at the session level, effectively reducing the space of alternative solutions available to the interval-level fits. As implemented, the approach therefore functions more as a detector of consistency with a session-defined step model than as an unbiased test of whether individual intervals are better described by discrete state transitions versus alternative dynamics such as ramps or gradual drifts. This concern could be addressed by comparing the constrained sigmoid model against alternatives, such as constant-rate or ramping models, on held-out intervals, or by deriving state parameters from an independent subset of trials and testing classification on the remaining trials.
The inclusion threshold for the accumulation analysis is difficult to evaluate. Sessions were included if they contained at least seven simultaneously recorded step-like units, but this number is hard to interpret without knowing the total number of recorded units per session and the fraction classified as step-like. Seven units may be sufficient for fitting a population accumulation trajectory, but because the cutoff is based on an absolute number rather than a proportion of the recorded population, it is unclear whether included sessions reflect robust population-level step-like dynamics or a relatively small selected subset of DMS activity. Reporting the number and fraction of step-like units per session, as well as the sensitivity of the accumulation results across different inclusion thresholds, would help clarify this point.
Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Sutlief and colleagues report behavioral and neural results from mice performing a patch foraging task. Behaviorally, they argue that time since last reward is a major determinant of when mice decide to leave a patch. In the brain, they find neurons in the dorsomedial striatum that show step-like changes in their firing rate at a range of times following reward. Population analyses show that the cumulative fraction of neurons that have undergone such a step-like change in firing rate can be used to predict patch-leaving times with impressive accuracy.
Overall, this is an interesting set of results that has been analyzed in a principled way. The manuscript is well written, the results are explained clearly, and the evidence supporting the authors' conclusions is strong. The manuscript is therefore a potentially valuable contribution to the growing literature assessing how the brain solves stopping problems like the patch foraging scenario. I have suggestions for the authors to consider that might further increase the rigor of their results, and a few suggestions for improving the clarity of the work for readers.
(1) I don't quite understand how the behavioral task works. Are mice rewarded for making discrete nose poke responses in the investment and context ports? Or are they required to nose poke and hold? Is reward given with some probability per response (which decreases with time in the patch), or is the reward probability a function of elapsed time in the patch, time since last response, or dwell time in the port? Also, exactly what equation defines how reward probability changes over time for the high- and low-value contexts? I couldn't find these details anywhere in the manuscript, and they would be helpful for better understanding the behavior and the later neural results.
(2) How was the optimal strategy determined? Several features of the author's task violate the assumption of the marginal value theorem, so computing the optimal residence time is not a straightforward application of the classic model. There's a diagram in Figure 1h that depicts an MVT-like graphical solution, but the conventions of the plot are not familiar to me, and there's no description of how it works in the results or methods. More detail here would be much appreciated. In a similar vein, the authors report that mice generally exceeded optimal residence times in patches, but no statistical comparison is provided to back up that statement. There should be some formal test of this if it is to be included in the results.
(3) The authors argue that time since last reward is the predominant determinant of patch leaving time. However, as the authors note, time since last reward is correlated with other task variables (patch reward rate, time in patch, etc.). I don't trust that SVM coefficients can be interpreted as straightforward measures of a variable's importance for classification performance in the case of correlated predictors. A better approach would be to assess how well the model performs as subsets of variables are added or removed from the model.
(4) For the SVM analysis, I'm not quite understanding how or why the authors are using 5 s after mice left the patch as additional "Leave" examples. For instance, is time since entry computed for the investment patch, or the context patch that mice enter after they leave the investment patch? Similarly, is the time since the last reward relative to the investment patch, or the reward the mouse is likely to receive at the context patch? Moreover, I'm not sure it's safe to assume that because the mouse left at time t, time t+1 necessarily reflects conditions on which the mouse would definitely leave again. If we're thinking about the stay/leave decision as something that is being repeated sequentially on a fast time scale to determine how long mice stay in the patch, it doesn't follow that observing a mouse leave means that any patch conditions after that would necessarily result in the same decision. If that were the case, it would mean that seeing a mouse leave a patch after 2 s would preclude ever observing a residence time longer than 2 s, which is clearly not compatible with the authors' data. Ultimately, it's only possible to observe one decision to leave per trial; including data points beyond that as additional leave examples seems overly speculative to me.
(5) The authors validate their approach for quantifying step-like changes in firing rate using simulations of constant-rate Poisson spiking and observe a low false positive rate. This is encouraging, but it doesn't seem like the only way in which their method could go awry, or even the most concerning way. I would be much more interested in seeing the false positive rate for continuous, ramp-like changes in firing rate, which would be much more likely to trip up the authors' approach and are also the major relevant alternative hypothesis to step-like changes in firing rate. Random walks in firing rate might also be worth testing.
(6) The finding that cumulative "transitioned" neurons is predictive of patch leaving is interesting. However, I can't help but wonder how truly informative this variable is for predicting patch leaving. It seems as though neurons can only transition firing rates one time. That means that as time in the patch increases, the fraction of transitioned neurons naturally increases. Similarly, all visits must eventually end with the mouse leaving the patch, so the hazard rate of leaving increases with time in the patch. Given that, can the authors be certain that the cumulative transitioned neurons are really what's predicting patch leaving time, or would any generically increasing function perform roughly the same? An interesting test would be to mismatch the neural predictor and behavior at the level of trials. If this mechanism is really specific, rather than something that captures the general structure of an increasing hazard rate of leaving, then prediction of leaving time should work substantially better when the neural predictor is correctly matched to behavior on the trial for which it was recorded.