Peer review process
Revised: This Reviewed Preprint has been revised by the authors in response to the previous round of peer review; the eLife assessment and the public reviews have been updated where necessary by the editors and peer reviewers.
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- Reviewing EditorJustin YeakelUniversity of California, Merced, Merced, United States of America
- Senior EditorDetlef WeigelMax Planck Institute for Biology Tübingen, Tübingen, Germany
Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Strengths:
This is an interesting topic and a novel theme. The visualisations and presentation are to a very high standard. The Introduction is very well-written and introduces the main concepts well, with a clear logical structure and good use of the literature. The Methods are detailed and well described and written in such a fashion that they are transparent and repeatable.
Weaknesses:
I only have one major issue, which is possibly a product of the structure requirements of the paper/journal. With the Results and Discussion, line 91 onwards. I understand the structure of the paper necessitates delving immediately into the results, but it is quite hard to follow due to lack of background information. In comparison to the Methods, which are incredibly detailed, the Results in the main section read quite superficial. They provide broad overviews of broad findings but I found it very hard to actually get a picture of the main results in its current form. For example, how the different species factor in, etc.
The authors have done a good job of responding to the reviewer's comments, and the paper is now much improved.
Reviewer #2 (Public review):
I would like to thank the authors for the revision and the input they invested in this study.
With the revised text of the study, my earlier criticism holds, and your arguments about the counterfactual approach are irrelevant to that. The recent rise of the counterfactual approach might likely mirror the fact that there are too many scientists behind their computers, and few go into the field to collect in situ data. Studies like the one presented here are a good intellectual exercise but the real impact is questionable. All your main conclusions are inferred from published studies on 7! bird species. In addition, spatial sampling in those seven species was not ideal in relation to your target questions. Thus, no matter how fancy your findings look, the basic fact remains that your input data were for 7 bird species only! Your conclusion, „our study provides a novel understanding of how QTP shapes migration patterns of birds, " is simply overstretching.
The way you respond to my criticism on L 81-93 is something different than what you admit in the rebuttal letter. The text of the ms is silent about the drawbacks and instead highlights your perspective. I understand you; you are trying to sell the story in a nice wrapper. In the rebuttal you state: „we assume species' responses to environments are conservative and their evolution should not discount our findings." But I do not see that clearly stated in the main text.
In your rebuttal, you respond to my criticism of "No matter how good the data eBird provides is, you do not know population-specific connections between wintering and breeding sites" when you responded: ... "we can track the movement of species every week, and capture the breeding and wintering areas for specific populations" I am having a feeling that you either play with words with me or do not understand that from eBird data nobody will be ever able to estimate population-specific teleconnections between breeding and wintering areas. It is simply impossible as you do not track individuals. eBird gives you a global picture per species but not for particular populations. You cannot resolve this critical drawback of your study. I am sorry that you invested so much energy into this study, but I see it as a very limited contribution to understanding the role of a major barrier in shaping migration.
My modest suggestion for you is: go into the field. Ideally use bird radars along the plateau to document whether the birds shift the directions when facing the barrier.
Author response:
The following is the authors’ response to the current reviews.
eLife Assessment
This important and creative study finds that the uplift of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau-via its resultant monsoon system rather than solely its high elevation-has shifted avian migratory directions from a latitudinal to a longitudinal orientation. However, the main claims are incomplete and only partially supported, as the reliance on eBird data-which lacks the resolution to capture population-specific teleconnections-combined with a limited tracking dataset covering only seven species leaves key aspects of the argument underdetermined, and the critical assumption of niche conservatism is not sufficiently foregrounded in the manuscript. More clearly communicating these limitations would significantly enhance the interpretability of the results, ensuring that the major conclusions are presented in the context of these essential caveats.
We appreciate your positive comments and constructive suggestions. We fully acknowledge your concerns about clearly communicating the limitations associated with the data used and analytical assumptions. We will try to get more satellite tracking data of birds migrating across the plateau. We will carefully consider the insights that our paper can deliver and make sure the limitations of our datasets and the critical assumption of niche conservatism are clearly presented. By explicitly clarifying these caveats, we believe the transparency and interpretability of the findings will be much improved.
Public Reviews:
Reviewer #1 (Public review):
The authors have done a good job of responding to the reviewer's comments, and the paper is now much improved.
Again, we thank the reviewer for constructive comments during review.
Reviewer #2 (Public review):
I would like to thank the authors for the revision and the input they invested in this study.
We are grateful for your thoughtful feedback and enthusiasms, which will help us improve our manuscript.
With the revised text of the study, my earlier criticism holds, and your arguments about the counterfactual approach are irrelevant to that. The recent rise of the counterfactual approach might likely mirror the fact that there are too many scientists behind their computers, and few go into the field to collect in situ data. Studies like the one presented here are a good intellectual exercise but the real impact is questionable.
We understand your question about the relevance of the counterfactual approach used in our study. Our intent in using a counterfactual scenario (reconstructing migration patterns assuming pre-uplift conditions on the QTP) was to isolate the potential influence of the plateau’s geological history on current migration routes. We agree that such an approach must be used properly. In the revision, we will explicitly clarify why this counterfactual comparison is useful – namely, it provides a theoretical baseline to test how much the QTP’s uplift (and the associated monsoon system) might have redirected migration paths. We acknowledge that the counterfactual results are theoretical and will explicitly emphasise the assumptions involved (e.g. species–environment relationships hold between pre- and post- lift environments) in the main text. Nonetheless, we defend the approach as a valuable study design: it helps generate testable hypotheses about migration (for instance, that the plateau’s monsoon-driven climate, rather than just its elevation, introduces an east–west shift en route). We will also tone down the language around this analysis to avoid overstating its real-world relevance. In summary, we will clarify that the counterfactual analysis is meant to complement, not replace, empirical observations, and we will discuss its limitations so that its role is appropriately bounded in the paper.
All your main conclusions are inferred from published studies on 7! bird species. In addition, spatial sampling in those seven species was not ideal in relation to your target questions. Thus, no matter how fancy your findings look, the basic fact remains that your input data were for 7 bird species only! Your conclusion, “our study provides a novel understanding of how QTP shapes migration patterns of birds” is simply overstretching.
Thank you for your comments. We apologise for any confusion regarding the scope of our dataset. Our main conclusions are not solely derived from seven bird species. Rather, we integrated a full list of 50 bird species that migrate across the QTP and analysed their migratory patterns with eBird data. We studied the factors influencing their choices of migratory routes with seven species that were among the few with available tracking data across the QTP. In this revision, we will clarify the role of these seven species and the rationale for their selection. Additionally, we attempt to include more satellite tracking data to improve spatial coverage, as recommended by the reviewer and editor. Based on discussions with potential collaborators, we will hopefully include a number of at least 10 more species with available tracking data.
The way you respond to my criticism on L 81-93 is something different than what you admit in the rebuttal letter. The text of the ms is silent about the drawbacks and instead highlights your perspective. I understand you; you are trying to sell the story in a nice wrapper. In the rebuttal you state: “we assume species' responses to environments are conservative and their evolution should not discount our findings.” But I do not see that clearly stated in the main text.
Thanks, as suggested we will clearly state the assumptions of niche conservatism in the Introduction.
In your rebuttal, you respond to my criticism of "No matter how good the data eBird provides is, you do not know population-specific connections between wintering and breeding sites" when you responded: ... "we can track the movement of species every week, and capture the breeding and wintering areas for specific populations" I am having a feeling that you either play with words with me or do not understand that from eBird data nobody will be ever able to estimate population-specific teleconnections between breeding and wintering areas. It is simply impossible as you do not track individuals. eBird gives you a global picture per species but not for particular populations. You cannot resolve this critical drawback of your study.
We agree that inferring population-specific migratory connections (teleconnections) from eBird data is challenging and inherently limited. eBird provides occurrence records for species, but it generally cannot distinguish which breeding population an individual bird came from or exactly where it goes for winter. However, in this study we intend to infer broad-scale movement patterns (e.g. general directions and stopover regions) rather than precise one-to-one population linkages. In the revision, we will carefully rephrase those sections to make clear that our inferences are at the species level and at large spatial scales. We will also explicitly state in the Discussion that confirming population connectivity would require targeted tracking or genetic studies, and that our eBird-based analysis can only suggest plausible routes and region-to-region linkages. We will contrast migratory routes identified by using eBird data and satellite tracking for the same species to check their similarity. We argue that, even with its limits, the eBird dataset can still yield useful insights (such as identifying major flyway corridors over the QTP).
I am sorry that you invested so much energy into this study, but I see it as a very limited contribution to understanding the role of a major barrier in shaping migration.
Thank you for recognising our efforts in the study. By integrating both satellite tracking and community-contributed data, we explored how the uplift of the QTP could shape avian migration across the area. We believe our findings provide important insights of how birds balance their responses to large-scale climate change and geological barrier, which yields the most comprehensive picture to date of how the QTP uplift shapes migratory patterns of birds. We will also acknowledge the study’s limitations to ensure that readers understand the context and constraints of our findings.
My modest suggestion for you is: go into the field. Ideally use bird radars along the plateau to document whether the birds shift the directions when facing the barrier.
We appreciate your suggestions to incorporate field tracking or radar studies to strengthen our results. All coauthors have years of field experiences, even on the QTP and Arctic. For example, the tracking data of peregrine falcons (Falco peregrinus) that we will incorporate in the revision are collected with during our own fieldwork in the Arctic for more than six years. We agree that more direct tracking (through GPS tagging or radar) would be an ideal way to validate migration pathways and population connectivity. In this revision, as stated above we will try to more species with satellite tracking data. We will also note that future studies should build on our findings by using dedicated tracking of more individual birds and radar monitoring of migration over the QTP. We will cite recent advances in these techniques and suggest that incorporating more tracking data could further test the hypotheses generated by our analyses.
Recommendations for the authors:
Reviewer #2 (Recommendations for the authors):
L55 "an important animal movement behaviour is.." Is there any unimportant animal movement? I mean this sentence is floppy, empty.
We will rewrite this sentence to remove any ambiguous phrasing.
L 152-154 This sentence is full of nonsense or you misinterpretation. First of all, the issue of inflexible initiation of migration was related to long-distance migrants only! The way you present it mixes apples and oranges (long- and short-distance migrants). It is not "owing to insufficient responses" but due to inherited patterns of when to take off, photoperiod and local conditions.
We will remove the sentence to avoid misinterpretation.
L 158 what is a migration circle? I do not know such a term.
We will amend it as “annual migration cycle”, which is a more common way to describe the yearly round-trip journey between breeding and wintering grounds of birds.
L 193 The way you present and mix capital and income breeding theory with your simulation study is quite tricky and super speculative.
We will present this idea as an inference rather than a conclusion: “This pattern could be consistent with a ‘capital breeding’ strategy — where birds rely on energy reserves acquired before breeding — rather than an ‘income’ strategy that depends on food acquired during breeding. However, we note that this interpretation would require further study.” By adding this caution, we will make it clear that we are not asserting this link as proven fact, only suggesting it as one possible explanation. We will also double-check that the rest of the discussion around this point is framed appropriately.
The following is the authors’ response to the previous reviews
eLife Assessment
This study addresses a novel and interesting question about how the rise of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau influenced patterns of bird migration, employing a multi-faceted approach that combines species distribution data with environmental modeling. The findings are valuable for understanding avian migration within a subfield, but the strength of evidence is incomplete due to critical methodological assumptions about historical species-environment correlations, limited tracking data, and insufficient clarity in species selection criteria. Addressing these weaknesses would significantly enhance the reliability and interpretability of the results.
We would like to thank you and two anonymous reviewers for your careful, thoughtful, and constructive feedback on our manuscript. These reviews made us revisit a lot of our assumptions and we believe the paper is much improved as a result. In addition to minor points, we have made three main changes to our manuscript in response to the reviews. First, we addressed the concerns on the assumptions of historical species-environment correlations from perspectives of both theoretical and empirical evidence. Second, we discussed the benefits and limitations of using tracking data in our study and demonstrate how the findings of our study are consolidated with results of previous studies. Third, we clarified our criteria for selecting species in terms of both eBird and tracking data.
Below, we respond to each comment in turn. Once again, we thank you all for your feedback.
Public Reviews:
Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Strengths:
This is an interesting topic and a novel theme. The visualisations and presentation are to a very high standard. The Introduction is very well-written and introduces the main concepts well, with a clear logical structure and good use of the literature. The methods are detailed and well described and written in such a fashion that they are transparent and repeatable.
We are appreciative of the reviewer’s careful reading of our manuscript, encouraging comments and constructive suggestions.
Weaknesses:
I only have one major issue, which is possibly a product of the structure requirements of the paper/journal. This relates to the Results and Discussion, line 91 onwards. I understand the structure of the paper necessitates delving immediately into the results, but it is quite hard to follow due to a lack of background information. In comparison to the Methods, which are incredibly detailed, the Results in the main section reads as quite superficial. They provide broad overviews of broad findings but I found it very hard to actually get a picture of the main results in its current form. For example, how the different species factor in, etc.
Yes, it is the journal request to format in this way (Methods follows the Results and Discussion) for the article type of short reports. As suggested, in the revision we have elaborated on details of our findings, in terms of (i) shifts of distribution of avian breeding and wintering areas under the influence of the uplift of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau (Lines 102-116), and (ii) major factors that shape current migration patterns of birds in the plateau (Lines 118-138). We have also better referenced the approaches we used in the study.
Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
The study tries to assess how the rise of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau affected patterns of bird migration between their breeding and wintering sites. They do so by correlating the present distribution of the species with a set of environmental variables. The data on species distributions come from eBird. The main issue lies in the problematic assumption that species correlations between their current distribution and environment were about the same before the rise of the Plateau. There is no ground truthing and the study relies on Movebank data of only 7 species which are not even listed in the study. Similarly, the study does not outline the boundaries of breeding sites NE of the Plateau. Thus it is absolutely unclear potentially which breeding populations it covers.
We are very grateful for the careful review and helpful suggestions. We have revised the manuscript carefully in response to the reviewer’s comments and believe that it is much improved as a result. Below are our point-by-point replies to the comments.
Strengths:
I like the approach for how you combined various environmental datasets for the modelling part.
We appreciate the reviewer’s encouragement.
Weaknesses:
The major weakness of the study lies in the assumption that species correlations between their current distribution and environments found today are back-projected to the far past before the rise of the Q-T Plateau. This would mean that species responses to the environmental cues do not evolve which is clearly not true. Thus, your study is a very nice intellectual exercise of too many ifs.
This is a valid concern. We have addressed this from both the perspectives of the theoretical design of our study and empirical evidence.
First, we agree with the reviewer that species responses to environmental cues might vary over time. Nonetheless, the simulated environments before the uplift of the plateau serve as a counterfactual state in our study. Counterfactual is an important concept to support causation claims by comparing what happened to what would have happened in a hypothetical situation: “If event X had not occurred, event Y would not have occurred” (Lewis 1973). Recent years have seen an increasing application of the counterfactual approach to detect biodiversity change, i.e., comparing diversity between the counterfactual state and real estimates to attribute the factors causing such changes (e.g., Gonzalez et al. 2023). Whilst we do not aim to provide causal inferences for avian distributional change, using the counterfactual approach, we are able to estimate the influence of the plateau uplift by detecting the changes of avian distributions, i.e., by comparing where the birds would have distributed without the plateau to where they currently distributed. We regard the counterfactual environments as a powerful tool for eliminating, to the extent possible, vagueness, as opposed to simply description of current distributions of birds. Therefore, we assume species’ responses to environments are conservative and their evolution should not discount our findings. We have clarified this in the Introduction (Lines 81-93).
Second, we used species distribution modelling to contrast the distributions of birds before and after the uplift of the plateau under the assumption that species tend to keep their ancestral ecological traits over time (i.e., niche conservatism). This indicates a high probability for species to distribute in similar environments wherever suitable. Particularly, considering bird distributions are more likely to be influenced by food resources and vegetation distributions (Qu et al. 2010, Li et al. 2021, Martins et al. 2024), and the available food and vegetation before the uplift can provide suitable habitats for birds (Jia et al. 2020), we believe the findings can provide valuable insights into the influence of the plateau rise on avian migratory patterns. Having said that, we acknowledge other factors, e.g., carbon dioxide concentrations (Zhang et al. 2022), can influence the simulations of environments and our prediction of avian distribution. We have clarified the assumptions and evidence we have for the modelling in Methods (Lines 362-370).
The second major drawback lies in the way you estimate the migratory routes of particular birds. No matter how good the data eBird provides is, you do not know population-specific connections between wintering and breeding sites. Some might overwinter in India, some populations in Africa and you will never know the teleconnections between breeding and wintering sites of particular species. The few available tracking studies (seven!) are too coarse and with limited aspects of migratory connectivity to give answer on the target questions of your study.
We agree with the reviewer that establishing interconnections for birds is important for estimating the migration patterns of birds. We employed a dynamic model to assess their weekly distributions. Thus, we can track the movement of species every week, and capture the breeding and wintering areas for specific populations. That being said, we acknowledge that our approach can be subjected to the patchy sampling of eBird data. In contrast, tracking data can provide detailed information of the movement patterns of species but are limited to small numbers of species due to the considerable costs and time needed. We aimed to adopt the tracking data to examine the influence of focal factors on avian migration patterns, but only seven species, to the best of our ability, were acquired. Moreover, similar results were found in studies that used tracking data to estimate the distribution of breeding and wintering areas of birds in the plateau (e.g., Prosser et al. 2011, Zhang et al. 2011, Zhang et al. 2014, Liu et al. 2018, Kumar et al. 2020, Wang et al. 2020, Pu and Guo 2023, Yu et al. 2024, Zhao et al. 2024). We believe the conclusions based on seven species are rigour, but their implications could be restricted by the number of tracking species we obtained. We have better demonstrated how our findings on breeding and wintering areas of birds are reinforced by other studies reporting the locations of those areas. We have also added a separate caveat section to discuss the limitations stated above (Lines 202-215).
Your set of species is unclear, selection criteria for the 50 species are unknown and variability in their migratory strategies is likely to affect the direction of the effects.
In this revision, we have clarified the selection criteria for the 50 species and outlined the boundaries of the breeding areas of all birds (Lines 243-249). Briefly, we first obtained a full list of birds in the plateau from Prins and Namgail (2017). We then extracted species identified as full migrants in Birdlife International (https://datazone.birdlife.org/species/spcdistPOS) from the full list. Migratory birds may follow a capital or income migratory strategy depending on how much birds ingest endogenous reserved energy gained prior to reproduction. We have added discussions on how these migratory strategies might influence the effects of environment on migratory direction (Lines 183-200).
In addition, the position of the breeding sites relative to the Q-T plate will affect the azimuths and resulting migratory flyways. So in fact, we have no idea what your estimates mean in Figure 2.
We calculated the azimuths not only by the angles between breeding sites and wintering sites but also based on the angles between the stopovers of birds. Therefore, the azimuths are influenced by the relative positions of breeding, wintering and stopover sites. This would minimize the possible errors by just using breeding areas such as the biases caused by relative locations of breeding areas to the QTP as the reviewer pointed. We have better explained this both in the Introduction, Methods and legend of Figure 2.
There is no way one can assess the performance of your statistical exercises, e.g. performances of the models.
As suggested, we have reported Area Under the Curve (AUC) of the Receiver Operator Characteristic (ROC)assess the performances of the models (Table S1). AUC is a threshold-independent measurement for discrimination ability between presence and random points (Phillips et al. 2006). When the AUC value is higher than 0.75, the model was considered to be good (Elith et al. 2006). (Lines 379-383).
Recommendations for the authors:
Reviewer #1 (Recommendations for the authors):
This is an interesting topic and a novel theme. The visualisations and presentation are to a very high standard. The Introduction is very well-written and introduces the main concepts well, with a clear logical structure and good use of the literature. The Methods are detailed and well described and written in such a fashion that they are transparent and repeatable.
I only have one major issue, which is possibly a product of the structure requirements of the paper/journal. With the Results and Discussion, line 91 onwards. I understand the structure of the paper necessitates delving immediately into the results, but it is quite hard to follow due to a lack of background information. In comparison to the Methods, which are incredibly detailed, the Results in the main section read quite superficial. They provide broad overviews of broad findings but I found it very hard to actually get a picture of the main results in its current form. For example, how the different species factor in, etc.
Please see our responses above.
Reviewer #2 (Recommendations for the authors):
Methodological issues:
Line 219 Why have you selected only 64 species and what were the selection criteria?
We have clarified the selection criteria (Lines 243-248). Briefly, we first obtained a full list of birds in the plateau from Prins and Namgail (2017). We then extracted species identified as full migrants in Birdlife International (https://datazone.birdlife.org/species/spcdistPOS) from the full list.
Minor:
Line 219 eBird has very uneven distribution, especially in vast areas of Russia. How can your exercise on Lines 232-238 overcome this issue?
Yes, eBird data can be biased due to patchy sampling and variation of observers’ skills in identifying species. To address this issue, we have developed an adaptive spatial-temporal modelling (stemflow; Chen et al. 2024) to correct the imbalance distribution of data and modelled the observer experience to address the bias in recognising species. The stemflow was developed based on a machine learning modelling framework (AdaSTEM) which leverages the spatio-temporal adjacency information of sample points to model occurrence or abundance of species at different scales. It has been frequently used in modelling eBird data (Fink et al. 2013, Johnston et al. 2015, Fink et al. 2020) and has been proven to be efficient and advanced in multi-scale spatiotemporal data modelling. We have better explained this (Lines 251-270; Lines 307-321).
Line 54 This sentence sounds very empty and in fact does not tell us much.
We have adjusted this sentenced to “Animal movement underpins species’ spatial distributions and ecosystem processes”.
Line 55 Again a sentence that implies a causality of the annual cycle to make the species migrate. It does not make sense.
We have revised this sentence as “An important animal movement behaviour is migrating between breeding and wintering grounds”.
Line 58 How is our fascination with migratory journeys related to the present article? I think this line is empty.
We have changed this sentence to “Those migratory journeys have intrigued a body of different approaches and indicators to describe and model migration, including migratory direction, speed, timing, distance, and staging periods”.
Figure 1 - ABC insets are OK, but a combination of lati- and longitudinal patterns is possible, e.g. in species with conservative strategies or for whatever other reason.
Thank you for the suggestion. We kept the ABC insets rather than combining them together as we believe this can deliver a clear structure of influence of QTP uplift under different scenarios.
The legend to Figure 2 is not self-explanatory. Please make it clear what the response variable is and its units. The first line of the legend should read something like The influence of environmental factors on the direction of avian migration.
Thank you. We have amended the legends of Figure 2 as suggested:
“Figure 2. The influence of environmental factors on the direction of avian migration. Migratory directions are calculated based on the azimuths between each adjacent stopover, breeding and wintering areas for each species. We employ multivariate linear regression models under the Bayesian framework to measure the correlation between environmental factors and avian migratory directions. Wind represents the wind cost calculated by wind connectivity. Vegetation is measured by the proportion of average vegetation cover in each pixel (~1.9° in latitude by 2.5° in longitude). Temperature is the average annual temperature. Precipitation is the average yearly precipitation. All environmental layers are obtained using the Community Earth System Model. West QTP, central QTP, and East QTP denote areas in the areas west (longitude < 73°E), central (73°E ≤ longitude < 105°E), and east of (longitude ≥ 105°E) the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau, respectively.”
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