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- Reviewing EditorYunlei YangAlbert Einstein College of Medicine, New York, United States of America
- Senior EditorKate WassumUniversity of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, United States of America
Reviewer #1 (Public review):
This is an interesting and valuable paper by Gil-Lievana, Arroyo et al. that presents an open-source method (the "Crunchometer") for quantifying biting and chewing behavior in mice using audio detection. The work addresses an important and unmet need in the field: quantitative measures of feeding behavior with solid foods, since most prior approaches have been limited to liquids. The authors make a clear and compelling case for why this problem is important, and I fully agree with their motivation.
The system is carefully validated against human-scored video data and is shown to be at least as accurate, and in some cases more accurate, than human observers. This is a major strength of the study. I also particularly appreciate the demonstration of the technology in the context of LHA circuitry, which nicely illustrates its utility and importance for mechanistic studies of feeding. I also appreciate the ability to readily time-lock neural data to individual crunches. Overall, the manuscript is well-executed and represents a useful contribution to the field.
The comments I have are largely minor and should be straightforward to address:
(1) The authors should report sample sizes for all mouse cohorts, either alongside the statistics or in the figure legends for mean data.
(2) Clarification is needed as to whether crunch detection fidelity is influenced by the hardness or softness of the food. The focus here is on standard pellets, with some additional high-fat pellet data, but it would be useful to know how generalizable the method is across different textures.
(3) The authors should comment on how susceptible the Crunchometer is to background noise. For example, how well does it perform in the presence of white noise, experimenter movement, or other task-related sounds?
(4) Chemogenetic activation of LHA GABAergic neurons is used. DREADD-based activation may strongly drive these neurons in a way that is not directly comparable to optogenetic or more physiological manipulations. While I do not think additional experiments are required, it would strengthen the discussion to briefly acknowledge this limitation.
Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
This manuscript introduces the Crunchometer, a low-cost, open-source acoustic platform for monitoring the microstructure of solid food intake in mice. The Crunchometer is designed to overcome the limitations of existing methods for studying feeding behavior in rodents. The goal was to provide a tool that could precisely capture the microstructure of solid food intake, something often overlooked in favor of liquid-based assays, while being affordable, scalable, and compatible with neural recording techniques. By doing so, the authors aimed to enable detailed analysis of how physiological states, drugs, and specific neural circuits shape naturalistic feeding behaviors.
Strengths:
The study's strengths lie in its clear innovation, methodological rigor in validation against human annotation, and demonstration of broad utility across behavioral and neuroscience paradigms. The approach addresses a significant methodological gap in the field by moving beyond liquid-based feeding assays and provides an accessible tool for precisely dissecting ingestive behavior. The system is validated across multiple contexts, including physiological state (fed vs. fasted), pharmacological manipulation (semaglutide), and circuit-level interventions (chemogenetic activation of LH neurons), and is further shown to integrate seamlessly with both electrophysiology and calcium imaging.
(1) Introduces a low-cost, open-source acoustic tool for measuring solid food intake, filling a critical gap left by expensive and proprietary systems.
(2) Makes the method easily adoptable across labs with detailed setup instructions and shared benchmark datasets.
(3) Provides high temporal precision for detecting bite events compared to human observers.
(4) Successfully distinguishes feeding microstructure (bites, bouts, IBIs, gnawing vs. consumption) with greater objectivity than manual annotation.
(5) Demonstrates compatibility with electrophysiology and calcium imaging, enabling fine-scale alignment of neural activity with feeding behavior.
(6) Effectively discriminates between fed vs. fasted states, validating physiological sensitivity.
(7) Captures the pharmacological effects of semaglutide, although this is really just reduced feeding and associated readouts (bouts, latency, etc).
(8) Has potential to distinguish consummatory vs. non-consummatory behaviors (e.g., food spillage, gnawing); however, the current SVM model struggles to separate biting from gnawing due to similar acoustic profiles, and manual validation is still required.
(9) Provides potential for closed-loop experiments.
Weaknesses:
Several limitations temper the strength of the conclusions: the supervised classifier still requires manual correction for gnawing, generalizability across different setups is limited, and the neuroscience findings, particularly calcium imaging of GABAergic and glutamatergic neurons, are based on small pilot samples. These issues do not undermine the value of the tool, but mean that the neural circuit findings should be interpreted as preliminary.
(1) Some neuroscience findings (calcium imaging of GABAergic vs. glutamatergic neurons) are based on small pilot samples (n=2 mice per condition), limiting generalizability.
(2) Chemogenetic and pharmacological experiments used small cohorts, raising statistical power concerns.
(3) Correlation with actual food intake is modest and sometimes less accurate than human observers.
(4) Sensitive to hoarding behavior, which can reduce detection accuracy and requires manual correction for misclassifications (e.g., tail movements, non-food noises). However, these limitations are discussed and not ignored.
Conclusion:
Overall, this is an exciting and impactful methodological advance that will likely be widely adopted in the field. I recommend minor revisions to clarify the limits of classifier generalizability, better contextualize the small-sample neuroscience findings as pilot data, and discuss future directions (e.g., real-time closed-loop applications).
Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The manuscript provides detailed information on the construction of open-source systems to monitor ingestive behavior with low-cost equipment. Overall, this is a welcome addition to the arsenal of equipment that could be used to make measurements. The authors show interesting applications with data that reveal important neurophysiological properties of neurons in the lateral hypothalamus. The identification of previously unknown "meal-related" neurons in the LH highlights the utility of the device and is a novel insight that should spark further investigation on the LH. This manuscript and videos provide a wealth of useful information that should be a must-read for anyone in the ingestive behavior or hypothalamus fields.
A scholarly introduction to the history and utility of various ways feeding is measured in rodents is provided. One point - the microstructure of eating solid food - has been studied extensively (for one of many studies, see https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0246569 ). However, I agree that the crunchometer will allow for more people to access recordings during food intake and temporally lock consummatory behavior to neural activity.
Questions on results:
(1) It is unclear why 10% sucrose solution was used as a liquid instead of water, given that the study is focusing on the solid food source.
(2) It is unclear how essential the human verification is in the pipeline - results for Figure 1 keep referring to the verification as essential. Is that dispensable once the ML algorithms have been trained?
(3) The ability to extrapolate food quantity consumed is limited, with high variability. This limitation does not undercut the utility of the crunchometer, but should be highlighted as one of the parameters that are not suitable for this system. This limitation should be added to the limitations section.
(4) The ability to discriminate between gnawing and consummatory behavior is a strength (Figure 5), and these findings are important. However, it is unclear what can be made of mice that have 'gnawing' behavior in the fasted state (like in Figure 3). It seems they would need to be eliminated from the analysis with this tool?
(5) Why is there a post-semaglutide fed group and not a fasted group in Figure 4? It seems both would have been interesting, as one could expect an effect on feeding even 24h after semaglutide treatment. This would help parse the preference better because the animals eat such a small amount on semaglutide, that it is hard to compare to the fasted condition with saline treatment.
(6) The identification of 'meal-related' neurons in the LH is another strength of the manuscript. Although there is currently insufficient data, could similar recordings be used to give a neurophysiological definition of a 'meal' duration/size? Typically, these were somewhat arbitrarily defined behaviorally. Having a neural correlate to a 'meal' would be a powerful tool for understanding how meals are involved in overall caloric intake.
(7) The conclusion in the title of Figure 8 is premature, given the pilot nature and small number of neurons and mice sampled.
Conclusion:
Overall, this report on the Crunchometer is well done and provides a valuable tool for all who study food intake and the behaviors around food intake. Clarification or answers to the points above will only further the utility and understanding of the tool for the research community. I am excited to see the future utility of this tool in emerging research.