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Revised: This Reviewed Preprint has been revised by the authors in response to the previous round of peer review; the eLife assessment and the public reviews have been updated where necessary by the editors and peer reviewers.
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- Reviewing EditorWei YanWashington State University, Pullman, United States of America
- Senior EditorWei YanWashington State University, Pullman, United States of America
Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Chong Wang et al. investigated the role of H3K4me2 during the reprogramming processes in mouse preimplantation embryos. The authors show that H3K4me2 is erased from GV to MII oocytes and re-established in the late 2-cell stage by performing Cut & Run H3K4me2 and immunofluorescence staining. Erasure and re-establishment of H3K4me2 have not been studied well, and profiling of H3K4me2 in germ cells and preimplantation embryos is valuable to understanding the reprogramming process and epigenetic inheritance.
(1) "The authors' assertion that H3K27me3 did not change from GV to MII stage (Author response) is noted; however, this data was not provided. To validate the technical success of the CUT&RUN protocol in MII oocytes-a stage characterized by chromatin condensation and low DNA input-it is essential that the authors provide their internal H3K27me3 data as a positive control.
Without showing that a stable mark (like H3K27me3) can be successfully mapped in their MII samples, the 'disappearance' of H3K4me2 peaks cannot be distinguished from a technical failure of the assay at this developmental stage. Furthermore, I remain skeptical of the inclusion of the first polar body as a DNA quantity, as polar body chromatin is often undergoing degradation and may not reflect the epigenetic state of the oocyte itself.
(2) I remain concerned by the inconsistencies regarding KDM1A (LSD1) expression. The authors claim in the text and Figure 4A that KDM1A is 'rarely expressed' during mouse embryonic development. However, their own Extended Data Figure 3A shows high expression of KDM1A in oocytes, 4-cell, and 8-cell stages. Both figures reportedly use published RNA-seq data. The authors must explain how the same gene in the same developmental stages can appear 'rarely expressed' in one figure and 'expressed' in another.
(3) Page 6 (Line 161-165) The H3K4me2 demethylases KDM1B (LSD2) were also highly expressed in growing oocytes but showed decreased expression in MII oocytes (Figure S3A, see also revised heatmap). We have re-analyzed the expression data and corrected the heatmap normalization; the revised Figure S3A now accurately shows that Kdm1b is highly expressed in growing oocytes, with lower levels in 8- week and MII oocytes, consistent with its role in maternal imprint establishment.
The expression data in growing oocytes are missing in Fig S3A.
(4) The authors' proposal to use transcriptome data to confirm TCP specificity is insufficient (Author reply). Since TCP is a small-molecule inhibitor of protein activity, its primary effect is not the reduction of mRNA transcripts, but the inhibition of the enzymes themselves.
To support their claim that the observed H3K4me2 resetting and developmental arrest are specifically due to KDM1B inhibition, I recommend:
a. Perform Western Blot for KDM1A/B
b. Use a Selective Inhibitor: Use a more selective KDM1A inhibitor (e.g. GSK-LSD1)
c. Address the Discrepancy: Provide a clear biological explanation for why chemical inhibition leads to 4-cell arrest while a maternal KO of KDM1B survives to E10."
(5) "The authors' response that IF and CUT&RUN cannot be compared because of 'different analysis models' is not scientifically sound in this context.
Quantitative Contradiction: A 1,000-fold increase in global IF signal must be reflected in the genomic landscape. If only 251 genes show a gain in H3K4me2 in the CUT&RUN data, this represents a negligible fraction of the genome, directly contradicting the 'dramatic increase' claimed in the IF data.
Lack of Spike-in Normalization: Did the authors use a spike-in for their CUT&RUN? Without global normalization, CUT&RUN only reports relative changes. If H3K4me2 increased everywhere, a non-normalized CUT&RUN library would fail to show it, making the data misleading. Currently, the two datasets provide two different versions of biological reality. A third validation (e.g., Spike-in Normalized CUT&RUN) would be recommended to determine which dataset is accurate."
Reviewer #3 (Public review):
Summary:
The study "Resetting of H3K4me2 during mammalian parental-to-zygote transition" provides valuable insights into the dynamic changes in H3K4me2 during early embryonic development.
Strengths:
The findings provide valuable insights into the temporal and spatial dynamics of H3K4me2 and its potential role in zygotic genome activation (ZGA).
Weaknesses:
Key areas for improvement include enhancing the innovation and novelty of the study, providing robust functional validation, establishing a clear model for H3K4me2's role, and addressing technical and presentation issues. While the findings are significant, the current manuscript falls short in several critical areas. Addressing these major and minor issues will significantly strengthen the study's contribution to the field of epigenetic reprogramming and embryonic development.
Comment on revised version:
It would be better for the author to directly provide some experimental or analytical data rather than discussing and defending.