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- Reviewing EditorTali KimchiWeizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel
- Senior EditorKate WassumUniversity of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, United States of America
Reviewer #1 (Public review):
Summary:
In this detailed study, Cohen and Ben-Shaul characterized the AOB cell responses to various conspecific urine samples in female mice across the estrous cycle. The authors found that AOB cell responses vary with the strains and sexes of the samples. Between estrous and non-estrous females, no clear or consistent difference in responses was found. The cell response patterns, as measured by the distance between pairs of stimuli, are largely stable. When some changes do occur, they are not consistent across strains or male status. The authors concluded that AOB detects the signals without interpreting them. Overall, this study will provide useful information for scientists in the field of olfaction.
Strengths:
The study uses electrophysiological recording to characterize the responses of AOB cells to various urines in female mice. AOB recording is not trivial as it requires activation of VNO pump. The team uses a unique preparation to activate the VNO pump with electric stimulation, allowing them to record AOB cell responses to urines in anesthetized animals. The study comprehensively described the AOB cell responses to social stimuli and how the responses vary (or not) with features of the urine source and the reproductive state of the recording females. The dataset could be a valuable resource for scientists in the field of olfaction.
Weaknesses:
(1) The figures could be better labeled.
(2) For Figure 2E, please plot the error bar. Are there any statistics performed to compare the mean responses?
(3) For Figure 2D, it will be more informative to plot the percentage of responsive units.
(4) Could the similarity in response be explained by the similarity in urine composition? The study will be significantly strengthened by understanding the "distance" of chemical composition in different urine.
(5) If it is not possible for the authors to obtain these data first-hand, published data on MUPs and chemicals found in these urines may provide some clues.
(6) It is not very clear to me whether the female overrepresentation is because there are truly more AOB cells that respond to females than males or because there are only two female samples but 9 male samples.
(7) If the authors only select two male samples, let's say ICR Naïve and ICR DOM, combine them with responses to two female samples, and do the same analysis as in Figure 3, will the female response still be overrepresented?
(8) In Figure 4B and 4C, the pairwise distance during non-estrus is generally higher than that during estrus, although they are highly correlated. Does it mean that the cells respond to different urines more distinctively during diestrus than in estrus?
(9) The correlation analysis is not entirely intuitive when just looking at the figures. Some sample heatmaps showing the response differences between estrous states will be helpful.
Reviewer #2 (Public review):
Summary:
Many aspects of the study are carefully done, and in the grand scheme this is a solid contribution. I have no "big-picture" concerns about the approach or methodology. However, in numerous places the manuscript is unnecessarily vague, ambiguous, or confusing. Tightening up the presentation will magnify their impact.
Strengths:
(1) The study includes urine donors from males of three strains each with three social states, as well as females in two states. This diversity significantly enhances their ability to interpret their results.
(2) Several distinct analyses are used to explore the question of whether AOB MCs are biased towards specific states or different between estrus and non-estrus females. The results of these different analyses are self-reinforcing about the main conclusions of the study.
(3) The presentation maintains a neutral perspective throughout while touching on topics of widespread interest.
Weaknesses:
(1) Introduction:
The discussion of the role of the VNS and preferences for different male stimuli should perhaps include Wysocki and Lepri 1991
(2) Results:
a) Given the 20s gap between them, the distinction between sample application and sympathetic nerve trunk stimulation needs to be made crystal clear; in many places, "stimulus application" is used in places where this reviewer suspects they actually mean sympathetic nerve trunk stimulation.
b) There appears to be a mismatch between the discussion of Figure 3 and its contents. Specifically, there is an example of an "adjusted" pattern in 3A, not 3B.
c) The discussion of patterns neglects to mention whether it's possible for a neuron to belong to more than one pattern. For example, it would seem possible for a neuron to simultaneously fit the "ICR pattern" and the "dominant adjusted pattern" if, e.g., all ICR responses are stronger than all others, but if simultaneously within each strain the dominant male causes the largest response.
(3) Discussion:
a) The discussion of chemical specificity in urine focuses on volatiles and MUPs (citation #47), but many important molecules for the VNS are small, nonvolatile ligands. For such molecules, the corresponding study is Fu et al 2015.
b) "Following our line of reasoning, this scarcity may represent an optimal allocation of resources to separate dominant from naïve males": 1 unit out of 215 is roughly consistent with a single receptor. Surely little would be lost if there could be more computational capacity devoted to this important axis than that? It seems more likely that dominance is computed from multiple neuronal types with mixed encoding.
(4) Methods:
a) Male status, "were unambiguous in most cases": is it possible to put numerical estimates on this? 55% and 99% are both "most," yet they differ substantially in interpretive uncertainty.
b) Surgical procedures and electrode positioning: important details of probes are missing (electrode recording area, spacing, etc).
c) Stimulus presentation procedure: Are stimuli manually pipetted or delivered by apparatus with precise timing?
d) Data analysis, "we applied more permissive criteria involving response magnitude": it's not clear whether this is what's spelled out in the next paragraph, or whether that's left unspecified. In either case, the next paragraph appears to be about establishing a noise floor on pattern membership, not a "permissive criterion."
e) Data analysis, method for assessing significance: there's a lot to like about the use of pooling to estimate the baseline and the use of an ANOVA-like test to assess unit responsiveness.
But:
i) for a specific stimulus, at 4 trials (the minimum specified in "Stimulus presentation procedure") kruskalwallis is questionable. They state that most trials use 5, however, and that should be okay.
ii) the methods statement suggests they are running kruskalwallis individually for each neuron/stimulus, rather than once per neuron across all stimuli. With 11 stimuli, there is a substantial chance of a false-positive if they used p < 0.05 to assess significance. (The actual threshold was unstated.) Were there any multiple comparison corrections performed? Or did they run kruskalwallis on the neuron, and then if significant assess individual stimuli? (Which is a form of multiple-comparisons correction.)