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- Reviewing EditorJoseph GleesonUniversity of California, San Diego, La Jolla, United States of America
- Senior EditorLu ChenStanford University, Stanford, United States of America
Reviewer #1 (Public Review):
The hippocampus is a structure in the cerebral cortex known to be compartmentalised into regions with different functions. Dorsal hippocampus is involved in cognitive functions such as declarative memory and spatial navigation and interconnects chiefly with the neocortex. Ventral hippocampus interconnects with limbic structures such as amygdala and hypothalamus and is involved in affective states and anxiety. What specifies this functional regionalisation during development is not well understood. The present study focuses on the role of transcription factors COUPTFI and COUPTFII, confirming a previously observed dorsal to ventral gradient of expression of COUPTFI in both embryonic and adult mouse hippocampus, and reporting that expression of COUPTFII is strongest in ventral hippocampus. The aim of the authors was then to probe the role of these transcription factors with the use of conditional knockout of one or both factors using RxCre+ mice (sometimes Emx1Cre+ for comparison). As predicted, COUPTFI insufficiency resulted in failure of the CA1 subregion of the dorsal hippocampus to develop properly (with concomitant loss of performance in a spatial memory task) COUPTFII knockdown had even more marked effects upon the ventral hippocampus with ectopic CA1/CA3 domains forming, while a double knockout lead to a drastic reduction in size of the hippocampus with subsequent effects upon the appearance of hippocampal synaptic circuitry and the capacity for adult neurogenesis (a feature of rodent hippocampus). In order to help explain the role of COUPTFI/II a role in regulating expression of two transcription factors LHX2 and LHX5, known to be crucial to hippocampal development, was tested by examining gene and protein expression. Changes in LHX2 and LHX5 was observed and a role for COUPTFI/II in regulating expression of these genes was postulated.
I believe the authors have largely achieved their aims and the results mostly support the conclusions, but, as discussed further below, there are some weaknesses in the data and some areas that could be expanded upon and improved. The methods are mostly appropriate. The use of the transgenic mice and the application of histological methods, especially tyramide amplified immunohistochemistry, is exemplary. However, I'm not sure a wide enough range of tests to explore the phenotype of the transgenic mice was employed to back the conclusions drawn by the authors. The introduction and discussion are nicely written and explain the general concepts and conclusions well. The work makes an important contribution to our understanding of brain development in general and hippocampal development in particular.
Turning to more specific comments, I must first point out that specification of the ventral hippocampus by expression of COUPTFII is not an entirely original finding, as it was suggested for the developing human hippocampus following immunohistochemical experiments illustrating COUPTFII expression to be confined to the ventral hippocampal structures of the medial temporal cortex (doi: 10.1093/cercor/bhx185). Of course, this study, unlike the present study, was restricted to fetal cortex, not adult, and also reported expression of COUP-TFI throughout dorsal and ventral hippocampal structures but without observing any dorsal to ventral gradient, however I feel its contribution to the field has been overlooked by the present study, and should be incorporated into the introduction and/or discussion.
More information about Rx-cre mice would be informative and could help explain the different phenotype observed when EMX1-cre mice were used to conditionally knock down COUPTFI/II expression.
The demonstration of antagonistic gradients of COUP-TFI and -TFII across the hippocampus is more convincing in the immunohistochemical preparations than in the western blots. The qualitative data presented in Fig.1p does not convincingly represent the quantitative data presented in Fig.1q. There seem to be multiple bands for COUP-TFII and I wonder exactly how quantifying this was approached?
Behavioural testing is limited to one test of dorsal hippocampus function. other tests for non-spatial memory, e.g. novel object recognition, or ventral hippocampus function, e.g. step through passive avoidance, might have lead to some interesting discriminations between the various knock down animals (see doi: 10.3389/fnagi.2018.00091).
Abnormalities in the trisynaptic circuit. No studies of actual synapses, either physiological or morphological, were carried out. I wonder to what extent these immunohistochemical studies just further reflect the abnormalities in hippocampal morphology presented earlier in the manuscript without specifically telling us about synaptic circuits? Although the immunohistochemical preparations are beautiful, they are inadequate on their own in telling us much about what sort of synaptic circuitry exists in the transgenic animals.
LHX2/LHX5 interaction. The immunohistochemical study, which shows clear differences in LHX5 and LHX2 protein expression at E14.5 in double knockdown mice is more convincing than the qPCR study at E11.5, which show surprisingly small differences in mRNA expression. Could the authors expand upon whether this is due to stage of development, or differences between mRNA and protein expression? Why hasn't both mRNA and protein expression data at both time points been presented?
Response to the re-submission
I am happy that the western blot presentation has been improved, and my minor comments attended to. It is disappointing, although understandable given the timeframe, that the lack of qPCR data at 14.5 ED has not been rectified. The immunohistochemical data alone is qualitative and only indicative of LHX5 expression remaining depressed and LHX2 expression possibly increasing between E11.5 and E14.5. In the absence of qPCR data, a more quantitative immunohistochemical study, such as counting blind the number of LHX5+ Cajal-Retzius cells, or measuring optical density of LHX2 expression under rigorous experimental conditions regarding image collection and processing, would be required to support the hypothesis that COUPTFI/II expression modulates the LHX2/LHX5 axis.
Reviewer #2 (Public Review):
The Author's chose to limit their response to re-doing the Lhx5 immuno using the correct antibody which now displays the expected staining: Lhx5 expression is limited to the hem. They have not however presented a characterization of where the RxCre acts, although this was pointed out by other reviewers as well. It would have been useful to demonstrate the expression domain in particular with respect to the time of its initiation, to explain how it causes a phenotype close to that described for the Lhx5 knockout (Zhao et al., 1999). From the decrease of Lhx5 expression and the CR cells which arise from the hem, it appears that the RxCre does indeed act in the hem. However, the timing and spatial pattern is important to establish, as I had pointed out in my first review, "If [the expression of RxCre] it has a dorso-ventral bias in the early embryo, it could explain the regional difference in the COUPTF phenotypes."
The major interpretive criticisms I made have not been addressed even though these would have only required a re-writing and re-interpretation of the data. The revised manuscript continues to include major errors of interpretation such as the idea that Lhx2 and Lhx5 "inhibit each other", something that is unsupported since the expression domains of these two genes are mutually exclusive as is clear from the authors' own new data and the literature.Lines 355-360: "The expression of Lhx2 was comparable between the control and double-mutant mice at E11.5 (Figure 5Be-h, e'-h'). Interestingly, the expression of the Lhx2 protein was increased in the hippocampal primordium in the COUP-TF double-mutant mice at E13.5 and E14.5 (Figure 5Bm-p, m'-p', u-x, u'-x'). The upregulation of Lhx2 expression is most likely associated with the reduced expression of the Lhx5 gene"There's clearly no Lhx5 in the hippocampal primordium so how is this possible?
The authors have missed the insights from key papers that they cite, e.g. (lines 352-354) " The expression of Lhx2 was expanded ventrally into the choroid plexus in the Lhx5 null mutant mice (Zhao et al., 1999)" - this paper in fact shows there is no choroid plexus. Lhx2 appears to extend to the midline likely because the hem isn't specified. The authors would benefit from reading https://doi.org/10.1101/2022.10.25.513532 in which Lmx1a is shown to be the master regulator of the hem.
A sentence like (lines 77-81) further blurs the literature: "Intriguingly, deficiency of either Lhx5 or Lhx2 results in agenesis of the hippocampus, and more particularly, these genes inhibit each other (Hébert & Fishell, 2008; Mangale et al., 2008; Roy, Gonzalez-Gomez, Pierani, Meyer, & Tole, 2014; Zhao et al., 1999), indicating that the Lhx5 and Lhx2 genes may generate an essential regulatory axis to ensure the appropriate hippocampal development"
First, none of the papers they cite shows that these two factors inhibit each other. Second, the "agenesis of the hippocampus" in the Lhx2 knockout mentioned in Porter et al. (1997) was later shown to be due to a transformation of the hippocampal primordium into an EXPANDED hem (Mangale et al.) In contrast, the "agenesis of the hippocampus" in the Lhx5 mutant appears to be due to the near-complete LOSS of the hem and evidenced by the loss of its derivatives, the choroid plexus and the CR cells (Zhao et al., 1999). The fact that loss of these two factors have opposite effects on the hem (each resulting in loss of the hippocampus, one due to transformation of the hippocampal primordium into hem and the other because of a lack of hipopcampal induction) does not mean that there is an Lhx5-Lhx2 "axis" regulating hippocampal development.
I won't repeat my other comments here, but the majority of them were not addressed in any way.
In conclusion, I find it unfortunate that the authors have chosen not to use the detailed input provided by the reviewers which would have greatly improved their manuscript.
Reviewer #3 (Public Review):
The authors have made significant improvements in addressing my major concerns raised during the previous review. However, I still have some lingering concerns regarding the quantification and statistical analysis presented in the manuscript. Specifically, there is a lack of robust quantification and statistical analysis to support the conclusions drawn, particularly in relation to the numbers of DG, CA1, and CA3 neurons.
To strengthen the validity and reliability of the findings, I would strongly recommend the authors to incorporate a more rigorous quantitative approach in their research. This could involve implementing stereological methods or other appropriate techniques to accurately estimate the numbers of neurons in the DG, CA1, and CA3 regions. By doing so, the authors would enhance the credibility of their conclusions and provide more solid evidence for their claims.